Pro-gun arguments are flawed
Last week, I was covering an active shooter response event in the EMS department. The speaker, a police officer, opened up her presentation with an editorial cartoon which commented on both the frequency of mass shootings and the mindset of some Americans who think that it will “never happen here.”
“Now, regardless of how you feel about the issue,” she then said, “gun control won’t stop this.” She went on to make the tired analogy that meth is illegal, too, and that doesn’t stop people from buying it.
She’s partially right; gun control will not stop 100 percent of gun violence. But America averages well over 10,000 firearm homicides each year. About 1,500 people under the age of 18 die each year from gun violence, which essentially means that we have the equivalence of one 9/11 worth of children’s deaths every two years due to guns. After 9/11, in which 2,977 people died, we passed mass surveillance legislation and invaded two countries, spending trillions of dollars. Ten times as many people die each year from guns and we give a collective shrug.
“Stuff happens,” as Jeb Bush said.
The UK, Canada and Australia all passed stringent gun control laws after mass shootings. Gun violence dropped in each country as a result. A drop of even 10 percent in gun deaths in America would be a huge success, thousands of lives being saved.
To address some arguments: Yes, drugs are illegal and still available. But the difference between guns and drugs is that you cannot grow guns. You cannot go to a pharmacy and purchase the ingredients for a gun. While a lot of drugs come from foreign sources, America is both the largest producer and seller of firearms in the world. Our house is flooding and we refuse to turn off the water in our overflowing bathtub.
Many say the Second Amendment protects us from tyranny, but this hasn’t been true for a long time. Dr. Ben Carson, GOP presidential rival to Donald Trump, recently said the Holocaust was more or less facilitated by German gun control laws. Without guns, he says, Jews were unable to do anything more than passively dawdle into Auschwitz.
This view is terribly ignorant. There was plenty of Jewish resistance throughout the Holocaust, from the Warsaw Uprising to the Bielski partisans in Belarus, but militias are no match for world-beating militaries. Thousands of Jews and Poles died in the Warsaw Uprising; 17 Germans met the same fate.
That was 75 years ago. Today, we have jets, stealth bombers, Predator drones, nuclear-armed submarines, and so on. If there was a military coup, they could simply have the NSA print out a list of all the members of Facebook 2nd Amendment groups and start the bombing. The 2nd Amendment became obsolete when America decided to spend half of its budget on the military for 70 years.
Another frequent argument is that if guns are outlawed, people will kill each other in other ways. This may be true in some cases, but as it stands, guns are literally the easiest way to murder someone right now. Like a camera, they’re just point and click. Handguns are used 2-3 times more frequently to murder than knives, other guns being a close third. On the same day as the Sandy Hook shooting, where 20 first graders were brutally murdered with a rifle, a man in China went on a knifing spree at a school, with a total of 22 young victims. Gun advocates immediately held this up as evidence of gun control’s uselessness. But none of the 22 victims died. Knife crime may increase, but it’s much harder to walk into a movie theater and stab 82 people, or 49 people on a college campus, and the ratio of dead will never be as high as they are with guns.
Unfortunately, we saw after Sandy Hook that even the most basic efforts toward curbing our gun-mania are futile, with the NRA stranglehold on Congress not looking to subside anytime soon. The NRA has been so successful in painting Obama as a gun-snatcher that preemptive gun sales were sky-high for four years before Obama even mentioned gun control, and that was only after 20 first graders were murdered. Hopefully it doesn’t take many more shot-up schools to finally do the right thing.
I graduated from Rio Vista High School in 2010 and goofed around for a couple years before registering at LMC in spring of 2013. I continued goofing around...
Patrick Sperry
Oct 29, 2015 at 8:16 pm
Tired old arguments? Like crime dropped in Australia etc..? Gun crime might have, although the actual numbers belie that statement depending on which numbers that you cherry pick. But overall crime, and especially crimes of violence have skyrocketed!
This retired Paramedic, and yes, I had all the cute titles behind my name, supports the private ownership of weapons. Gun Free Zones are what kill people combined with people that are on psychotropic medications as well as nearly 100% liberal backgrounds.
Years before Columbine in a letter to the Editor at The Rocky Mountain News I opposed gun free zones calling them Free Fire Zones. It was unfortunately a prophetic statement…
Do some honest research because the politically correct mantra only gets innocent people killed and injured.
Michael B
Oct 29, 2015 at 4:52 pm
Tyler, your innocence is refreshing. Sadly, your bias is showing in your words, or at least your echoes of the bias of those who’ve you been listening to.
There is such a thing as “gun control:” we know three things that work. 1) always handle a firearm as if it was loaded; 2) never point it at anything you don’t intend to destroy, and 3) never shoot unless you are sure of what is (or isn’t) behind your target. Trigger control, sight alignment, and proper breathing matter for accuracy of every shot fired.
It’s foolish to think that so-called control measures ended or limited violence in other countries, or in various states run for decades by liberal “anti-gun” politicians. There is no such thing as “gun violence.” Only humans can commit criminal acts of violence, and humans are perfectly capable of using tools of man’s creation no matter WHAT restrictions are imposed by government.
If you think lightly armed citizen’s militias are helpless against modern military forces, you have NOT spent enough time learning history. A few dozen militiamen defeated the most powerful army on the planet in early 1775-76. Militiamen brought down the 2nd most powerful nation a few years later, in Paris, 1789. Lightly armed (rifles and pistols) resistance fighters tied up hundreds of thousands of German troops between 1941 and 1945 in Eastern Europe. Small militia units in Vietnam defeated the Japanese, the French, and the US between 1940 and 1975. The same sort of small citizen forces overturned the Shah and his massive police state in Iran, 1979, and defeated the combined weight of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, 1979-1989. The citizen’s militia defeated the US in Iraq and Afghanistan.
You debate the lethality of a knife, club, or bare hands vs a pistol or rifle? Today, most gun shot wounds are NOT LETHAL. Stabbings and the penetrating wounds of an edged weapon are far more likely to permanently maim or kill people than any commonly sold handgun in the world today.
If you think the 2nd amendment is somehow “obsolete” today, think again. Would you deny a gay couole the right to bear arms against a stalker or an arson-minded hate group? Should a lesbian be denied a handgun permit because her potential rapist has a stealth drone to hunt her with?
Dan
Oct 29, 2015 at 3:56 pm
How ironic to think that if we follow EU’s lead more Americans will not lose their lives because “All Firearms” would then be illegal…There was a story out just other day about how all Citizen in (forget the Country) but I think it was in Middle East where if a guy had a boat load of firearms, he’d have no problem selling them for the highest price possible and they would pay it because there’s no firearms to be had by the people there to defend themselves against all radical groups now killing the people. So now after the fact (giving up their firearms) there now helpless sheep awaiting the Wolves to attack and what are they all gonna do bring a knife to a Gun Fight as you and our Supreme Leader of these 58 divided States suggest, Hell even BFD JoeBiden knows better cause he told Women to have a Shotgun at the ready incase of an intruder…imagine that our VP not following in lock step with Supreme Leaders view on Gun’s.
There’s some 300 Million+ American who own some 600-700 Million+ Firearms and most of firearms owned are owned legally, and if there were no good Guys with a Gun to shoot those Bed Guy’s with Gun we’d have more Sandy Hook shootings taking place almost on a daily basis now that ISIS is inside these 58 divided States, so I’ll ask you Cassie Dickman, what weapon are you going to use w/o having a firearm because your so willing to give your 2nd Amendment rights up at the drop of a hat, what is your Weapon of choice when that Bad Guy with a Gun breaks into your home/car or merely attempts to take your life right out in the open say at a stop light or in middle of shopping mall and decides he wants to behead you….what are you gonna do ? Remember you have no firearm to defend yourself or your family/friends….Oh and you’ll also be limited in the number of rounds you allowed under law but don’t count on that Bad guy with a Gun to abide by those laws either 😉 So what weapon knife, rubber knife…rock….stick….your hands….maybe you’ll just run away while he (Bad Guy W/Gun) shoots you in the back cause to him it doesn’t matter how they kills you. I’ll await your answer(s) SMH Folk’s, SMH !!!
Matt V
Oct 29, 2015 at 10:48 am
The e-mail listed above for the writer seems to be rejecting all incoming. I guess it didn’t take long for his inbox to get blown up with “differences of opinion”
Cassie Dickman
Oct 29, 2015 at 10:58 am
It hadn’t been activated but it is now.
Tim
Oct 29, 2015 at 9:58 am
If the cat wasn’t already out of the bag (guns in circulation) it could happen, maybe. all speculation at this point. but remove guns from %99.7 of the law abiding people and the criminals will keep theirs. Criminals will rule the the streets, we will all be victims then. But one can dream. as to resisting the military style forces, we see everyday that it can be done. Terrorism is successful on that front, its a fistful of sand that oozes between your fingers. The Afghans resisted the russian army till they left.
Abraham Collins
Oct 29, 2015 at 9:56 am
“The UK, Canada and Australia all passed stringent gun control laws after mass shootings.”
These laws would violate our Second Amendment. After passing these laws each country saw a rise in violent crime. Gun control is great for the wolves since it muzzles the sheepdogs. There is irony in the fact that a sheep like you would bleat for more of it.
Roger V. Tranfaglia
Oct 29, 2015 at 9:26 am
I have NO IDEA of what your saying here. Please explain…..
Lee Cruse
Oct 29, 2015 at 6:35 am
“Hopefully it doesn’t take many more shot-up schools to finally do the right thing”.
Yes, this statement I can agree with, however, I suspect that the author has no clue as to what “the right thing” is.
1) We need to remove all “No Gun Zones”
2) We need low cost high quality gun safety and usage training available to all adults.
It the staff at Sandy Hook had been armed, no child would have been harmed.
Tyler
Oct 29, 2015 at 11:55 am
Interesting perspective! Thanks for reading.
Casey
Oct 29, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Lee Cruse, really? No child would have been harmed? That’s a bold statement. Just think of an ill prepared school teacher pulling out a gun in a panic. Now multiply that by how many teachers there are in any given school and cross your fingers in hopes of no friendly fire .
Lee Cruse
Oct 29, 2015 at 6:32 am
“But the difference between guns and drugs is that you cannot grow guns”. – well not really true. You can not “grow” a gun, but with only minimum tools you can build most guns. Look at the middle east where they are making AK’s in caves over coal fired pits and hand tools.
As far as the effectiveness of a large armed population vs a Military, again look to our conflicts in the Middle East, we have been only able to beat the resistance back for short periods of time, not really “win”. The power of ISIS is growing by leaps and bounds and our influence is virtually nil.
Also, our military and civilian police do not an oath to their leaders (or government), the oath is to defend the Constitution. In witch one of the basic ideas is that the ultimate power should always be in the hands of “The People”. So, should we have another civil war over something like “gun confiscation” attempts, most of the military and police would not honor unlawful orders to fire on citizens.
Carp
Oct 29, 2015 at 4:33 am
It really does not matter what you think. The Right to bear arms is a civil right as defined in the Constitution and interpreted by the Supreme Court. It is the law of the land. Individual liberties cannot be taken away from innocent, lawful gun owners because of the crimes of others. The vast majority of gun owners never have nor ever will cause any harm to another person. The blame for the crime lies solely on the criminal’s actions. He or she chose to break the law – not an inanimate object.
Josey Wales
Oct 29, 2015 at 12:19 am
Who wrote this extreme important Bull$H!T….!